Abstract
This paper discusses the battle between Peter Ramus and Quintilian. The author compares this battle to the one between Iran and Iraq and examines the way that the United States aided Iraq to fight Iran in the 1980's because she wanted to even ground and protract the war to make sure both sides lost many lives. The author compares this situation to the one in the battle between Peter Ramus and Quintilian where a stalemate of winning arguments arises and both sides have lost.

From the paper:

"With the considerable lashing Ramus unleashes on Quintilian, one would expect ridiculous argumentation from the former and substantial rebuttal from the later. However, Ramus only emerges victorious on one front, the separation of morality and rhetoric. His second onslaught, conversely, never penetrates Quintilian's solid wall of reason. Without invention, arrangement, and memory, rhetoric fails to persuade. With clear victory implausible for either party, witnesses to the squabble find themselves echoing the sentiment of Henry Kissinger: Quintilian and Ramus have both lost."

Tags:communication, dialectic, quintilian, ramus, rhetoric

Abstract
This paper deals with the subject of rhetoric and explores the history and theories relating to the virtue of rhetoric. It mentions Isocrates, Gorgias, Plato, Aristotle, Cicero, Quintilian, and Augustine as all having their own theories for ensuring virtue. The paper finally concludes that rhetoric can be used for something great and morally outstanding.

From the Paper
''Arete is a Greek term that means virtue, excellence or being the best that you can be and is commonly associated with the subject of Rhetoric. Throughout history, rhetors have used this term to define the standards of what morals, policies and practices students of rhetoric should adhere to. Isocrates, Gorgias, Plato, Aristotle, Cicero, Quintilian, and Augustine all have their own theories about "arete" of the rhetor, and the qualities a virtuous rhetor must possess. Throughout this paper, I explore a little about each rhetor's history and theories relating to the virtue of rhetoric and rhetors and determine who has the most credible theory for ensuring virtue in rhetors.
''Isocrates was a very important rhetorical figure in Athens and an important man to consider when studying arete in rhetoric. Born in 436 B.C., Isocrates was a contemporary and rival to Plato, studying under Socrates and possibly Gorgias.''

Tags:credible, excellence, virtue